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She doesn’t want commitment she just wants Thomas fo be her boy toy!

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No kidding, she’s getting her way here, no one’s forcing her to get married… Thomas is as free to do as he pleases as she is.

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She wants a devotee to worship her as well.

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All of the Logan’s thrive on worship. Sadly none of them really deserve it.

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I don’t even understand what Thomas saw in Hope in the first place. She’s not a good person & is selfish. I’m very glad Thomas is not with her anymore. Now maybe he might grow up and move on

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The idiot saw something in Hope was not there…

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It’s like Hope and Liam all over again. They thought they were going to be the perfect fairy tale couple, only nobody is. Hope and Thomas both thought they could say how they were feeling and that the other person was really listening and agreeing despite what they were also saying/doing. Neither were right.

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Hope has been very honest with Thomas - he’s a grown man , it’s up to him to continue on with the relationship or walk away -
Not sure what the need is for marriage.
They are enjoying their time together, creating beautiful work and enjoying the kids .
Everyone knows they are in a relationship so, It’s not like Hope is ashamed.
Why does he have to be so possessive?

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Along with being possessive, I also see a great deal of pure arrogance. It’s all about HIS feelings and what HE wants right now…and not a second longer. What Hope is or is not ready for is of no significance to him.

Thomas assured Hope that he would wait until she is ready for marriage. But, one word of encouragement from Ridge, and Thomas tossed his promise to Hope right out of the window. Another word from his sister the drama queen and Thomas is allowing himself to be convinced of something that simply is not true.

If Thomas allows his arrogance to cost him a relationship that he was obviously happy in before all those arrogant Forresters took a wrecking ball to it, he deserves whatever future misery befalls him. I’m running fresh out of sympathy for him. He’s ridiculous.

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Right ! He needs to just relax and enjoy the moment- After everything Thomas has done to Hope he’s lucky they are where they are….

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It’s not wrong to want marriage. Thomas barely has a marriage track record. He thought he could pursue it with Hope. Everyone has a different timeframe. They should just break up if Hope does not think she will be interested in marriage within a year or two. It’s wrong to expect someone to wait forever (especially during the good looking years).

Maybe he will now fall under the spell of Luna, the first perfect unbelievably smart, beautiful, innovative woman to ever grace Forrester that was not a Logan. Or is she a Logan cousin thrice removed?

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That’s just it. It’s not wrong for Thomas to want marriage at his age, particularly since his experience with marriage does not mirror Hope’s. Hope isn’t wrong not to want to get married either for the same reason—her experience with marriage isn’t similar to Thomas’. Even as children it isn’t similar. For a while, at least, Thomas had an intact family with two full siblings and both parents, and he was old enough to remember that. Hope never had any of that. Their visions of marriage and family may just be very different. With the rewriting of Thomas’ past that we’ve been given, Thomas has also loved Hope exclusively for most of his life, while Hope’s just now possibly coming around to the fact that Thomas may be the one, though it’s hard to tell if that’s because she loves him or loves the way he loves her because that’s usually how she explains why she cares about him—because of the way he treats her. And, of course, Hope is coming off of years of being with Liam being her sole personal goal, whereas Thomas is thinking his supposed lifelong personal goal has suddenly come true. They’re just in very, very different places right now. Neither is wrong about what they want. It’s just that what they want is very different. It’s also possible that in a year or two Hope may want to marry Thomas—or that over that time period, she might decide she’s happier not being married. Either way, it’s not really fair for Thomas to have to put his life on hold waiting for Hope to make up her mind, and Hope, if she loves him, shouldn’t want him stuck in a holding pattern he doesn’t find fulfilling either. If they broke up now, they might find their way back together. Or they might find more appropriate choices for themselves and still manage to remain friends and decent coparents. But if either of them tries to save the situation by doing something that doesn’t feel right to them, they’re likely to become unhappy enough to want to end things anyway, and they’d just be prolonging their unhappiness by trying to pretend to be satisfied by something that isn’t satisfying them in the meantime.

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Can’t always get what he wants - she never said never . What’s the rush ?

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I think another reason Thomas may have wanted the commitment of at least being engaged is how the entire relationship began he’s always wanted Hope (according to how they did the rewrites) and she suddenly kissed him in Rome and then pulled away again then as soon as Liam ended it she was jumping him and then they started their affair and he felt like they were working towards becoming a real thing but his mom,sister and Brooke were always reminding him it wouldn’t be like he expected but he was holding into hope that it was and I think he may have just wanted assurance that it wasn’t just a facade and that if she was wearing his ring she loved him and he could prove all the doubters wrong but now I think he’s questioning everything I think his rush to get engaged was because he was feeling insecure about where they stood and wanted assurance in the back of his mind with people constantly tearing it down,so depending on how they write it they could make or break Thope

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You know what I really didn’t get about the whole engagement possibility? I could see Thomas seeing an engagement the way he did, but on Monday, Hope was suddenly telling Brooke and Ridge that, gee, maybe she wouldn’t mind being engaged but she wasn’t ready to get married. Huh? Doesn’t being engaged pretty much imply you’re ready to get married, maybe not right that minute, but to that person at some generally pre-determined time? At the risk of sounding entirely too high school, it sounds more like Hope wants a promise ring, an engaged-to-be-engaged promise, as opposed to being really engaged, which is a promise to get married, even if not immediately. However, with two kids involved, one of whom really wants this marriage, I’m not sure a really long engagement of several years is feasible in this situation. Nor would it really be fair to Thomas, who, even if he didn’t expect an immediate wedding, would, I think, prefer the engagement not last over a year.

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It’s almost like she suddenly realized she stood to lose a lot by turning Thomas down IMO after Steffy made sure to let her know she thought she got through to her brother to end their relationship and now she wanted to backpedal. But regardless they are in too entirely different headspace’s and need time to really think about things and talk things out in regards to if they have a future together or not

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They also need to learn how to talk things out. So far, all they’ve ever done is talk at one another, ask each other if they understand, and nod at each other without really coming to any realistic understanding of what they really want for themselves or the relationship. Perhaps they could do with some couples counseling.

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Hope is the one to kept asking Thomas if he lvoed her. She kept playing on htat. Why ask if the other person’s lvoes you give you don’t feel the same? A game player would. Hope was very obessive about hearing from Thomas that he loved her and only her.

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IMO Hope is just trying to finding another way to string Thomas along and try to make herslef look like the victim.

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