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As a couple Thomas been gone since March and now already engaged?

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@Dkingz1130 I think Thomas has gone off the rails again. His engagement to Paris is to hurt Hope. JMO

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Agree - still playing games and poor Douglas caught up in it .

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IMO, there’s something wrong with the lot of them; and, Hope needs run (not walk) in the opposite direction of all three of them.

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Agree , she was totally caught off guard but in the long run she’s the lucky one . Let Thomas play his mind games , unfortunately Douglas is caught in his weird web .

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I should probably feel sorry for Douglas… but I don’t. Any woman Thomas is with for over five minutes becomes Douglas’s mother. That is unnatural and way weird to me. Of course, Douglas may be doing this because he’s spent way to much time tangled up in Thomas’s weird web.

The writers would never allow it, but I would love to see Hope give old Thom the “whatever” and get to stepping in the opposite direction of him and all his weirdness. It would make my day and probably be quite fun to watch.

As for Paris, she’s basically always been FF material to me. I don’t see that changing a great deal. Although, I will confess that I get a kick out of The Princess’s sister-in-law being the same woman that was lusting after her husband after she and her husband were kind enough to give Paris a place to live. LOL

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I too am over Douglas - I use to be a fan now I see him as an enabler.
Paris , she can have Thomas
Looking forward to Steffy and Finn’s conversation about his return.
Finn sees Thomas for exactly who he is .

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As much as I hate to admit it, Finn may actually see Thomas for exactly who he is. I, too, am looking forward to hearing Steffy and Finn’s conversation about Thomas’s latest stunt. That will easily be one of the more interesting episodes. LOL! I’m sure that Steffy and Finn will come down on different sides of this (completely unbalanced) equation.

The words “Paris, she can have Thomas” are flashing like a neon sign inside my head. LOL! Usually, my soapy romantic side would want Hope to fight for Thomas; but, since these writers produced Paris (and “Mom”), that side of me is not even in the building. I would so love to see Hope leave Thomas right there in the sewer that he so childishly and willingly jumped into.

I have never thought of Douglas as an enabler before; but, I do see your point.

If I remember correctly, didn’t Finn’s buddy Paris also support his getting to know his birth mommy Sheila?

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Does Paris have no self awareness or self respect? That is my question. Thomas is amazing and a great catch for sure, but what woman wants to be used like this to make another woman jealous? And honestly, while I love Thomas, if he is not in love with Paris, and I am not buying it right now, then the person he is hurting the most is his son. I do not see Thomas like that any more. He has grown so much, and this is a set back for him. IMO

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Honestly, I see Paris as the Taylor of yesteryear. Thomas does NOT love her the way he loves Hope; but, he may grow to love her and stay married to her. I think that the ultimate love of Thomas is, indeed, Hope. Unfortunately, Douglas will be as negatively impacted by Thomas’s actions with Paris as Thomas and Steffy were by Ridge’s actions in loving Brooke but marrying Taylor.

Ridge initially chased after and married Taylor because he did not want to take Brooke from his father Eric. Thomas, of course is marrying Paris because he thinks he will never have Hope…and, frankly, he isn’t willing to put the work in to get Hope. Paris is a sure thing…just like Taylor.

To me, Paris has always seemed to lack self-awareness while presenting as a person with tons of self-respect. I don’t see myself caring any more about Paris than I currently do… which is not at all. I did, however, care about the character Thomas. MA is a great actor and I’m sure that, at some point, he will make me care about Thomas again.

I just hope that the writers will keep Thomas out of the HFTF stuff. If they want him with Paris, they should let him BE with Paris rather than turning him yet again into a flaky loon. Ridge loving both Brooke and Taylor worked for years; but, Ridge was never crazy before loving the two women. That cannot be said of Thomas and his mental issues.

Of course, if they do this staight-arrow with Paris stuff, they might lose some viewers. There are definitely Thope fans out there. According to the show’s PTB, they are sensitive to and appreciative of these fans. But, honestly, I can’t tell from what I have been watching thus far. LOL!

I have the feeling that they will be sending Hope directly into Finn’s arms. But, IMO, that isn’t going to compare to the hot Thope chemistry that they will be tossing out the window. I’m not invested in Tharis and I don’t intend to be.

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I could see them making Paris the Taylor of this situation and Hope the Brooke,Paris has a background in social work which somewhat parallels Taylor and she has been the loser in love situations but also has a moral compass while they have been seemingly writing Hope to be more like Brooke and it is very Bell to recycle things but with new people

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Agreed. And, actually, this show needs a “Brooke” because, hate Brooke or love her, she kept things on, popping, and interesting back in the day. I actually used to tune in to see what Brooke was into… and she was always into something. LOL.

These days, I’m tuning in to see what’s up with Hope. Everyone else seems to be settled in one way or another. Hope is a mess. And, as I used to do with Brooke, I find myself rooting for underdog Hope and hoping that she will eventually get it right. I’m so glad that Hope is no longer written as “perfect” because I find her far more watchable this way. JMHO.

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This is such a great post and I agree with so much of it. Especially the comparison with Taylor which just might happen and with this: “I did, however, care about the character Thomas. MA is a great actor and I’m sure that, at some point, he will make me care about Thomas again.”

I also love Thomas and I am a THOPE fan, but it sure seems the writers just played with us and never intended to let them have the happiness I had hoped for.

Thoughtful post!

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it sure seems the writers just played with us and never intended to let them have the happiness I had hoped for.

Bell had said before that Thomas and Hope were not rootable. It wasn’t his intention for them to take off. He always wants Liam as top dog amongst the younger set. People think Hope should have options. With the presence that MA has, Thomas also should have options.

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I love MA and I agree. I had not heard that from Bell. It explains a lot. I am sorry I even allowed myself to get invested in them then. As for Liam, he is overdone with Hope and Steffy. Wash, rinse, repeat

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Thanks! So glad you enjoyed the post. As you know, I am also a Thope fan. That’s how I know that, even if Hope moves on to someone else, I won’t ever be invested in Tharis.

The show’s PTB and MA both said that, when Thomas left, they were taken by surprise at what they heard from the voices of the Thope fans. I kind of had a feeling then that they wouldn’t be able to resist tossing some angst at a pairing that fans clearly want. It’s still no less disappointing to see how this is playing out. The ultimate put down (at least for me) was that mess out of Douglas.

The reason that the Taylor/Paris angle came to me is because Ridge said several times (to Brooke) that Thomas and Hope are like he and Brooke. Of course, Brooke disagreed; but, Ridge stuck to his statement concerning Thomas and Hope. Ridge also just assured Hope (a couple of episodes ago) that he knows that Thomas loves her. I took that as a “hang on” to us Thope fans.

I can “hang on” with the best of them, but I don’t want to see Thomas (or Douglas) being mean to Hope. There’s enough meanness out there in the real world without me tuning in to watch my favorite soap couple (which Thope is) and finding… meanness. The writers need to be really careful with that. Thomas can do what he wants with old Paris… but Hope had better be the ruler of his heart … no matter what chick he’s with at any given point in time.

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I’m on the fence—could Thomas/Paris be real. I remember a while ago, didn’t they live together, just roommates. Thomas was hurt by Hope turning down his proposal twice—is he in love with Paris—-Hope sure is fantasizing about Finn. Now that Thomas is with Paris, Hope will need a shoulder to cry on —Finn and I’m sure she will have more headaches that only Finn can cure. Finn is going to feel sorry for Hope—

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Bell said they weren’t “rootable” way back when Thomas first entered the scene after Caroline’s death. Thope has come a long way since then, and I’m sure that Tharis isn’t what I would call instantly rootable. If they were, we would have seen their romance develop onscreen.

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I wouldn’t put it all on Hope. It’s entirely possible that, though Finn loves Steffy, he may get tired of the way she treats and speaks to him…which is awful.

Plenty of factors have been laid in place to open the door to Hope and Finn.

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