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Spoilers for next week say that Dayzee finds out the truth.

Now will that be about Marcus being a daddy or that Thomas lied and Stephanie put him up to it.

I have a feeling she comes to visit Thomas at Forrester and accidently over hears them talking about it like they keep doing because Steph has to keep telling Thomas about his parents being so happy and what he will get if he stays quiet.

Then again he may get drunk and spill his guts to Dayzee. He was hitting the Patron the other day and even Steph took a double look at what he was drinking.

Any other thoughts about this and what it may result in?

Now will that be about Marcus being a daddy or that Thomas lied and Stephanie put him up to it.

I have a feeling she comes to visit Thomas at Forrester and accidently over hears them talking about it like they keep doing because Steph has to keep telling Thomas about his parents being so happy and what he will get if he stays quiet.

Then again he may get drunk and spill his guts to Dayzee. He was hitting the Patron the other day and even Steph took a double look at what he was drinking.

Any other thoughts about this and what it may result in?

LOL!! I noticed him throwing the patron back, also!! I think it will play out just as you said. He’s gonna spill it to Dayzee, in a drunken stupor!!

I am sooo ready for this to be over with!!

Stephanie should be very proud of herself turning her grandson into an alcoholic.

I think Thomas will confide in Dayzee, he is having a hard time dealing with the lie. Hopefully she will convince him to tell the truth.

Quote nannacarmen: Stephanie should be very proud of herself turning her grandson into an alcoholic.

How when Anti Brooke fans said that Brooke turned Macy and Taylor into alcoholics it wasn’t true and now all of a sudden, Stephanie turned Thomas into an alcoholic?

LH thats what I’m wondering as well. Thomas is a grown man he made the choice to go along with the plan due to his selfish ways. He wanted Stephanie’s 25% at any cost. So he has himself to blame for going along with a plan that he was uncomfortable with.

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

he never have drinking problem before Stephane put all this pressure on him. never one time showed him drink until now makes sense to me it was caused by what his grand mother is doing to him. he is a adult but he is a greedy one and that is getting him in problems. he need be careful cause his mama and his grandpa were alcoholices. stehane is evil to do that to her own flesh and blood and she will pay. drinkink is a choice taylor her daddy Macy all mmake bad choice did wrong thing hope Thomas don’t do that. hope he tell Daisy. he better cause he bout to blow wide open. taylor should made Steffy halve her shares cause Thomas go nuts after all that cause he was really mad and now he do wrong to get shares. she should have gave them both halves not all to Steffy

Thomas has only proved that he is not mature enough to handle to power that comes with being a share holder of a major company.

Taylor did what she thought was right at the time. Steffy was banned from FC by Ridge due to a lie and to protect Steffy and Thomas, Taylor gave her shares to Steffy. As she at the time and now is a member of the management team (head of the PR department). Taylor told Steffy that she trusts her to give Thomas his 12.5% when the time is right. Should she have told Thomas that, yes, it would have eased the sibling rivalry and wouldn’t have caused a rift between mother and son.

Thomas has used Brooke to push his interests in FC in the form of Taboo. He agreed to Stephanie’s terms he has every opportunity to say grandma I can’t do this keep your shares but instead he has her signing contracts stating that her will cannot be challenged.

Thomas is a greedy, selfish man who is dealing with his own guilty conscience.

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

While I am not going to go so far as to say that Stephanie is turning him into an alcoholic because I do agree that he is an adult and responsible for his own decisions and actions and that he has definitely been quite slimey and manipulative, Stephanie is sure not setting a good example and is manipulating him. So while she is not responsible for his drinking, she is playing a part in making him even more slimey than he already is. And as a grandmother who cares about her grandson, she should care more about the effect that this scenario is having on him than about her hatred of Brooke.

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

The topic of alcoholism has much been debated on this board.

Alcoholism has been genetically linked to an “addictive” gene or trait. Undoubtedly, this gene or trait can be passed on through generations as other traits such as eye color.

Although there is a choice involved in drinking, it is harder for those who have a history of drinking in their family to say no to a drink when they are engineered to give in to the urge.

Brooke’s constant pestering and rubbing her and Thorne’s affair in Macy’s face made that choice of not drinking almost 0%.

Although I don’t believe that Thomas is an alcoholic, he has more a chance of becoming one due to genetics.

Outside influences cause people to drink, but genetics cause people to become addicts.

lord have mercy i really hope thats not where this s/l is going for tom to be another drunk battling his addiction. UGH… something new would be nice well maybe him an mom can go to AA together for some quality mother and son bonding time

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

The topic of alcoholism has much been debated on this board.

Alcoholism has been genetically linked to an “addictive” gene or trait. Undoubtedly, this gene or trait can be passed on through generations as other traits such as eye color.

Although there is a choice involved in drinking, it is harder for those who have a history of drinking in their family to say no to a drink when they are engineered to give in to the urge.

Brooke’s constant pestering and rubbing her and Thorne’s affair in Macy’s face made that choice of not drinking almost 0%.

Although I don’t believe that Thomas is an alcoholic, he has more a chance of becoming one due to genetics.

Outside influences cause people to drink, but genetics cause people to become addicts.

Hey Logan,

I have heard both sides of that argument…I really don’t know if I subscribe to the gene thing, but I don’t discount it as you described it, well put…pre-disposed… :]

I do believe that it is a choice regardless, pre-disposed or not…

Everyone has odd stresses in life…family, work, grief, etc…everyone choses how to cope…

I just don’t think it is ok to blame people or circumstances for that choice…some folks choose to work out, go for a run. etc…

We can’t Blame the Forresters or the Logans for some of the characters bad choices, whatever they are…

Thomas could have stood up to Stephanie and said no…Where was that moral upbrining that Taylor is so proud of? He chose greed…now he is dealing with the guilt… 3)

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

The topic of alcoholism has much been debated on this board.

Alcoholism has been genetically linked to an “addictive” gene or trait. Undoubtedly, this gene or trait can be passed on through generations as other traits such as eye color.

Although there is a choice involved in drinking, it is harder for those who have a history of drinking in their family to say no to a drink when they are engineered to give in to the urge.

Brooke’s constant pestering and rubbing her and Thorne’s affair in Macy’s face made that choice of not drinking almost 0%.

Although I don’t believe that Thomas is an alcoholic, he has more a chance of becoming one due to genetics.

Outside influences cause people to drink, but genetics cause people to become addicts.

Hey Logan,

I have heard both sides of that argument…I really don’t know if I subscribe to the gene thing, but I don’t discount it as you described it, well put…pre-disposed… :]

I do believe that it is a choice regardless, pre-disposed or not…

Everyone has odd stresses in life…family, work, grief, etc…everyone choses how to cope…

I just don’t think it is ok to blame people or circumstances for that choice…some folks choose to work out, go for a run. etc…

We can’t Blame the Forresters or the Logans for some of the characters bad choices, whatever they are…

Thomas could have stood up to Stephanie and said no…Where was that moral upbrining that Taylor is so proud of? He chose greed…now he is dealing with the guilt… 3)

I never really liked Thomas…I always thought he had some deep seated issues from childhood. And his constant bickering with Steffy…he is forever in competition with her and I think based on his responses, retorts etc when talking to her or about her, it’s obvious he is jealous…but I digress.

As far as the gene thing goes…I’m not saying that a choice isn’t involved, I am saying the choice not to drink is just harder, MUCH harder for those who are genetically constructed to be become more addictive than those who are not.

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

The topic of alcoholism has much been debated on this board.

Alcoholism has been genetically linked to an “addictive” gene or trait. Undoubtedly, this gene or trait can be passed on through generations as other traits such as eye color.

Although there is a choice involved in drinking, it is harder for those who have a history of drinking in their family to say no to a drink when they are engineered to give in to the urge.

Brooke’s constant pestering and rubbing her and Thorne’s affair in Macy’s face made that choice of not drinking almost 0%.

Although I don’t believe that Thomas is an alcoholic, he has more a chance of becoming one due to genetics.

Outside influences cause people to drink, but genetics cause people to become addicts.

Hey Logan,

I have heard both sides of that argument…I really don’t know if I subscribe to the gene thing, but I don’t discount it as you described it, well put…pre-disposed… :]

I do believe that it is a choice regardless, pre-disposed or not…

Everyone has odd stresses in life…family, work, grief, etc…everyone choses how to cope…

I just don’t think it is ok to blame people or circumstances for that choice…some folks choose to work out, go for a run. etc…

We can’t Blame the Forresters or the Logans for some of the characters bad choices, whatever they are…

Thomas could have stood up to Stephanie and said no…Where was that moral upbrining that Taylor is so proud of? He chose greed…now he is dealing with the guilt… 3)

I never really liked Thomas…I always thought he had some deep seated issues from childhood. And his constant bickering with Steffy…he is forever in competition with her and I think based on his responses, retorts etc when talking to her or about her, it’s obvious he is jealous…but I digress.

As far as the gene thing goes…I’m not saying that a choice isn’t involved, I am saying the choice not to drink is just harder, MUCH harder for those who are genetically constructed to be become more addictive than those who are not.

I would tend do agree with you on the impulse to have a drink…I know folks who get pizzed or stressed and go for a run, as do some reach for a glass of wine…

I will say, that you and I were two of the first posters to peg Thomas as a creeper from day one of this re-cast…

How fun to be proven right… 3) 3)

jcyl, Thomas did indeed chose greed and the guilt is about to get to him. I was surprised to see him come from a work out and go straight to the bottle, what is up with that all of a sudden? I think his guilt will get him before the drinking, he is about to break, little creep!

I have heard for many years that it is a decision, not a disease! I have also heard that it runs in families, someone has a drinking problem and people will say well his old grandpappy drank himself to death, or his aunt or mama or some family member…I have certainly seen that happen many times,it does sometimes appear to run in families, but I have no answer for it. I would not even dare say because I have had no experience with that problem, thank goodness for that.

His mother wanted him to go into theraphy all be it for a diff reason but he could have opened up to the thearpist but he choose not to.

Thomas should blame Thomas!!!

I agree! And I’ll even go as far to say that some blame can lie on Stephanie, but the majority of blame lies on Thomas.

Yes Stephanie put the stress on him, but Thomas put himself in that situation by the choice he made and continues to make by not telling the truth.

Maybe if Taylor and Macy were given a choice and was not incessantly nagged or had their faces rubbed in whatever HO was doing that day by HO herself, they might have had a chance.

Everyone drinks by their own choice…Taylor never drank before Ridge left her, so that was how she chose to numb the pain…then she was “hooked”…it numbed the pain of her marriage to Nick and the whole Jack debaucle.

Macy too, chose her path in drinking… :o

Both ladies had many family members and loved ones to support them through their tough times…They chose the booze… %(

As is Thomas…his only excuse is that he is still very young…and how hard is it to go up against Grandma Stephanie if necessary…Ridge can barely do it… ~)

Even Eric has his nightly Martini, before Stephanie comes home…

All of them could have just gone to the gym…ran marathons…worked at Dayzee’s…read a book…knitted a sweater…worked in the garden…planned a party…shopped…that used to work…etc…no excuses and no BAD DAYS… 3)

The topic of alcoholism has much been debated on this board.

Alcoholism has been genetically linked to an “addictive” gene or trait. Undoubtedly, this gene or trait can be passed on through generations as other traits such as eye color.

Although there is a choice involved in drinking, it is harder for those who have a history of drinking in their family to say no to a drink when they are engineered to give in to the urge.

Brooke’s constant pestering and rubbing her and Thorne’s affair in Macy’s face made that choice of not drinking almost 0%.

Although I don’t believe that Thomas is an alcoholic, he has more a chance of becoming one due to genetics.

Outside influences cause people to drink, but genetics cause people to become addicts.

Hey Logan,

I have heard both sides of that argument…I really don’t know if I subscribe to the gene thing, but I don’t discount it as you described it, well put…pre-disposed… :]

I do believe that it is a choice regardless, pre-disposed or not…

Everyone has odd stresses in life…family, work, grief, etc…everyone choses how to cope…

I just don’t think it is ok to blame people or circumstances for that choice…some folks choose to work out, go for a run. etc…

We can’t Blame the Forresters or the Logans for some of the characters bad choices, whatever they are…

Thomas could have stood up to Stephanie and said no…Where was that moral upbrining that Taylor is so proud of? He chose greed…now he is dealing with the guilt… 3)

I never really liked Thomas…I always thought he had some deep seated issues from childhood. And his constant bickering with Steffy…he is forever in competition with her and I think based on his responses, retorts etc when talking to her or about her, it’s obvious he is jealous…but I digress.

As far as the gene thing goes…I’m not saying that a choice isn’t involved, I am saying the choice not to drink is just harder, MUCH harder for those who are genetically constructed to be become more addictive than those who are not.

I would tend do agree with you on the impulse to have a drink…I know folks who get pizzed or stressed and go for a run, as do some reach for a glass of wine…

I will say, that you and I were two of the first posters to peg Thomas as a creeper from day one of this re-cast…

How fun to be proven right… 3) 3)

LOL…would you believe that I have read that “running” can be addictive too???

I guess the addictive gene causes a person to do something in overabundance to the point where it becomes unhealthy (though I can’t imagine running being unhealthy ) That’s why addiction ranges from alcoholims, to gambling to food to video gaming.

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